technology has really lowered the barriers for all sorts of investors to be able to trade. but it doesn't, when it goes down, it really goes down. you know the pits are not going to go down like that. i think charlie is absolutely right. the sec has totally failed here. the nasdaq needs to have a fail-safe system. they, obviously, don't. they shouldn't be allowed to operate until they do. >> you know, ben stein, i do remember the days when you look at the floor of the new york stock exchange crowded with people and now tumble weeds. nicole and like a couple of guys. i'm just wondering, what has happened and is that the problem. have we taken the human out of it and made it so high tech that it's high problem? >> well, the only way that there would have been something like this happening if there was the crisis and lots of live human traders and they the question -- >> that happens sometimes. >> the question we have to ask, it could happen. ask us how much better off are we with the computer system? i don't know that there has been any data showing we are better and there is